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Scotty the Great
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posted October 27, 2003 16:33      Profile for Scotty the Great   Author's Homepage   Email Scotty the Great   Send New Private Message     Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote    UIN: 83373429
The inspiration for this thread official goes out to the university paper here at Whitewater. I was readin' it during my English class one day and came across an article about file sharing. I know a lot of people that live on campus do a lot of file sharing, and since it is 'illegal', the campus is doing a campaign against it (yeah, like that's going to matter). The article mentioned the negatives of file sharing, including the fact that it slows down the campus network. According to the article, when you download files with programs like Kazaa, your using your computer as a server for others to download files from you as well. This is against the computer usage rules on campus, but is also very untrue. Anyone that knows anything about Kazaa has probably already discovered that there is a feature that will allow you to share no folders so that nobody can download from you. WinMX has a similar feature as well. I guess this type of propaganda works for those who haven't discovered this feature, but it's still flat-out false.

So what is your take on file sharing? I'm all for it, to a certain extent. It should be used to download files that are not outside of other legal limits (for instance, child pornography or 1-800-COLLECT commercials starring Carrot Top, but why the hell would you download either of these anyway?).

Plus, file sharing allows you to try out a product before you buy it. For instance, if I download a movie or songs from a CD that I really enjoy, I will go out and official buy it when I get the money. So I say go for it.


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posted October 27, 2003 16:44      Profile for Gauss   Email Gauss   Send New Private Message     Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote    UIN: 292282245
Well im 4 file sharing.
But i think that if u download some songs,or a movie etc..
U will probably wont buy an original and just burn it on a cd.
A perfect duplication for free!
This,i believe is what many many people have in mind..

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posted October 27, 2003 16:51      Profile for rad-x     Send New Private Message     Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I am for file sharing, but then I find the concept of money bewildering...

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posted October 27, 2003 17:41      Profile for PIPBoy2000   Email PIPBoy2000   Send New Private Message     Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
File sharing (please excuse me for how i'm going to say this) r0xx0rz m4h b0xx0rz.

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posted October 28, 2003 01:19      Profile for Jim   Email Jim   Send New Private Message     Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote    UIN: 191605699
I'm about file sharing for one reason: In my Country I can't find some programs to buy,like ROXIO EASY CD CREATOR 6 so I use Kazaa to download it

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posted October 28, 2003 08:21      Profile for Scotty the Great   Author's Homepage   Email Scotty the Great   Send New Private Message     Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote    UIN: 83373429
Well, for downloading software, I can understand that. In fact, I can't even list how much pirated software I have on my computer right now; it's a lot. The reason for this is because it is easier to download it than to buy hundreds of dollars worth of software that will become outdated in a few years, and then buying hundreds of dollars more.

As for music and movies, I actually do go out and buy 'em if I do like them. However, if the CD features only a few good songs, or the movie blows, then it's hardly worth my money to begin with. With downloading, I get to find out if it sucks or not, without wasting my money. And yes, I am too lazy to go down to the local Blockbuster and rent movies. That still costs money [Tongue Job 1]


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posted October 28, 2003 13:49      Profile for PIPBoy2000   Email PIPBoy2000   Send New Private Message     Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Without file sharing, I wouldn't have my 28.3 gig porn collection, and I'm proud of it.

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posted October 28, 2003 16:12      Profile for Gauss   Email Gauss   Send New Private Message     Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote    UIN: 292282245
28G?
r u serious ???????
godamn!
Why do u need so much???

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posted October 28, 2003 16:25      Profile for PIPBoy2000   Email PIPBoy2000   Send New Private Message     Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Recreation purposes....

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posted October 28, 2003 16:28      Profile for Scotty the Great   Author's Homepage   Email Scotty the Great   Send New Private Message     Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote    UIN: 83373429
Yeah. It's sort of like a national sport.

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posted October 28, 2003 22:01      Profile for Stapes   Email Stapes   Send New Private Message     Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote    UIN: 131549933
28?!?!? THAT'S ALL!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAH! I have over 35!

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posted October 29, 2003 03:26      Profile for CaliberOnzo   Author's Homepage   Email CaliberOnzo   Send New Private Message     Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote    UIN: 163194783   
I have none but anyway what I think about sharing: I'm kind of against the high prices they give to game's cd's and movie's (you can occasionally find me buying old games for low prices) When you buy the old games for let's say 5 Euro they still make profit on it! They make these game's and cd's for a very low price and they put like 45 Euro's on it. Off course shipping also goes with this but that would not make it more then 10 Euro so I would say for profit sell them for 15-20 euro! That's why I download games and all that kinda stuff. Though sometimes I go out and buy a game and if it has any expansions I buy all of them like I did with Diablo II. Just to make them look good on the stench

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posted October 29, 2003 08:47      Profile for Gauss   Email Gauss   Send New Private Message     Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote    UIN: 292282245
U have none!?
I really not buying it..
I have around 100 megs..really
but i havent seen a person yet who has none...

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posted October 29, 2003 10:17      Profile for Scotty the Great   Author's Homepage   Email Scotty the Great   Send New Private Message     Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote    UIN: 83373429
Well, I don't have any either *looks around*

And I can't download or view porn over the network without gettin' in trouble. Then again, I'm not supposed to use file-sharing programs or play multiplayer games, either.


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posted October 29, 2003 11:09      Profile for Gauss   Email Gauss   Send New Private Message     Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote    UIN: 292282245
Well,thats different coz u have college limitaions.
Cant play multy games?!
Why is that...?

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posted October 29, 2003 11:43      Profile for Scotty the Great   Author's Homepage   Email Scotty the Great   Send New Private Message     Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote    UIN: 83373429
Eats up too much bandwidth. But that doesn't stop anyone from doing it anyway.

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posted October 29, 2003 12:09      Profile for Gauss   Email Gauss   Send New Private Message     Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote    UIN: 292282245
Hehehehehehhehehe.

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posted October 31, 2003 13:06      Profile for Thanatos Starfire   Email Thanatos Starfire   Send New Private Message     Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Filesharing programs are the way of the future. Once people realize this, their lives will be much easier. For example, they will learn to incorporate it into their sales systems. (did the invention of the ape recorder put musicians out of business? Why should filesharing?) As a different transportation medium, it is almost ultimate; you have almost nothing in materials to pay for. If for example, there was a music server that charged by the song, the only cost is bandwidth. Charge extra for those that want 1MB/sec+ download speeds, but otherwise just create a system similar to fileplanet(in which case paying makes sense as it is not for free software, but actual music). This also applies to programs, but the program prices will likely vary. (and as more and more programs are getting created for linux now instead of just windows/mac, OS costs become negligible). I still beleive twice as many people would upgrade immediately to the latest OS version if the price was halved. Well, enough on this subject.

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One word for you: iTunes. File sharing will become the dominant means of distributing music, and record industry doesn't like it because they will be rendered obsolete. But no matter what they try, they can't stop the new age when music is cheap and accessible. Time has come for the unjust system established by greedy capitalist swines known as "music industry" to fall.

You know, it's amazing how cases like this (i.e. file sharing related) reveal true face of certain people. It's both funny and disgusting to see those tough bad-ass motherf***ers like Metallica and Dr.Dre whine and scream about a few hundred thousand dollars lost due to file sharing. All their powerful verses directed against mainstream, greed, capitalism, political correctness and whatnot suddenly sound weak and lame. Almost as weak and lame as their pathetic explanations why iTunes should be outlawed - according to Madonna and a bunch of other greedy bastar...uh, artist, songs cannot be sold separately from albums, because albums represent an "artistic whole". Every idiot knows that albums consist of one or two good tracks and the rest is total bullshit purpose of which is only to fill the CD and justify the outrageous 20$ price tag.

Music belongs to the world. It doesn't belong to greedy hypocritical bastards who are in music business for money, and it certainly doesn't belong to immoral corporations who would kill everybody in the world if it meant additional profit for them.

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posted October 31, 2003 16:11      Profile for Gauss   Email Gauss   Send New Private Message     Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote    UIN: 292282245
In a good mood arent ya?
well u have good points there..

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posted November 01, 2003 03:05      Profile for CaliberOnzo   Author's Homepage   Email CaliberOnzo   Send New Private Message     Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote    UIN: 163194783   
Hey,

Hmm well this almost seems like some boring forum i've been on last time with people talking about bullshit just let it rest and we'll see what'll come...

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posted November 01, 2003 05:05      Profile for Ratty     Send New Private Message     Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Talk about file sharing and recording industry can change my mood from "happy and friendly" to "angry and hostile".

GROAR!

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posted November 01, 2003 07:37      Profile for CaliberOnzo   Author's Homepage   Email CaliberOnzo   Send New Private Message     Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote    UIN: 163194783   
Hey,

Should I be scared now?

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posted November 02, 2003 16:51      Profile for Scotty the Great   Author's Homepage   Email Scotty the Great   Send New Private Message     Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote    UIN: 83373429
Yes, run and jump for cover!

Anyways, file sharing will prevail; I see no way to prevent it. Hell, even Napster is back in business.


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posted November 02, 2003 18:20      Profile for PIPBoy2000   Email PIPBoy2000   Send New Private Message     Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
ROFL!!!! Anyone seen "The Italian Job"????? It's hilarious!!

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posted November 02, 2003 18:49      Profile for Ratty     Send New Private Message     Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
What does Italian Job have to do with file sharing?

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posted November 02, 2003 20:22      Profile for Scotty the Great   Author's Homepage   Email Scotty the Great   Send New Private Message     Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote    UIN: 83373429
heheheheheh, Ratty, see the movie. It has to do with Napster. See it and you'll understand.

Also, The Italian Job was an awesome movie.


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posted November 02, 2003 20:43      Profile for PIPBoy2000   Email PIPBoy2000   Send New Private Message     Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Amen to that Scotty!

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posted November 04, 2003 08:11      Profile for CaliberOnzo   Author's Homepage   Email CaliberOnzo   Send New Private Message     Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote    UIN: 163194783   
Hey,

I didn't see it what's so good about it?

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posted November 04, 2003 18:06      Profile for PIPBoy2000   Email PIPBoy2000   Send New Private Message     Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
See it, problem solved.

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